This episode is with one of the worlds leading trauma therapy teachers – Betsy De Thierry ( who works with many organisations equipping them to deal with the effects of trauma in individuals lives. Betsy also is the senior pastor of a church in the UK called Freedom Centre, based in Bath ( In this episode, Betsy unpacks how the local church is, and can be a great place for people navigating trauma. Her insights and wisdom into this area make this podcast a must-listen for anyone leading in the local church…Here’s my promise: “If you don’t like it I’ll give you your money back ;)” ????




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